The Armchair Gooner

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Arsenal could/should bid for Neymar and Ganso.

Neymar soon realised sticking dead animals to his head was painful

Evening folks.

Geez. I wish the new season would hurry up and get here. At present. my days consist of hopefully opening up various website, only to be met with crushing disappointment when I discover there’s bugger all happening.

I could mention the interminable saga of Robin van Persie, but, quite frankly, I’m beginning to just wish he’d do us all a favour and leave – all this waiting isn’t helping him, us or the club itself.

What I’d like to talk about is Arsenal’s transfer policy. For years now, we have admirably made do with what we have at our disposal. Financially, we’re the 4th richest club in the world, yet when it comes to transfers, the board seems happier with sustainability and little risk. Selling our stars on for huge prices now seems to be a regular occurance.

I don’t dispute that prudence financially is a smart approach in football’s current climate of mega-rich investors, FFP and uncertainty. You only need look at Rangers as an example of what poorly managed debt can do to a huge club. What I do debate is our insistence on not using what we have.

Arsenal – from what I’m told – have money. If we wanted to shell out £30m on a player, we could. What irks me is that we won’t. Spending somewhere in that region on players like Neymar or Ganso isn’t going to destroy the club – chances are, we’d sell them on after 4 years for a huge profit, anyway.

There has to be a point when we realise that the current model is working to keep the club secure, but it’s affecting our ability to compete. Football has changed drastically since the days of Wenger’s greatest success. Whether we care to admit or not; money rules these days. The clubs that have it – Chelsea, Man City, Madrid and Barcelona – will always be the ones that sign the best players.

I’m not saying we should abandon all the good work we’ve done – not at all. Personally, I believe that the is a medium in which we should operate, and an greater level of competitiveness/player retention would come if we at least tried to slug it out with the big boys. Arsenal are far from a David matching up to a Goliath, Arsenal are far from restricted by anything other than our own policy.

If I asked anyone reading this if a bit of uncertainty financially would come on the back of signing Neymar for £40m – how many of you would be happy to accept that? I’m not suggesting the owners do anything stupid, but I’m getting a little tired of losing world-class players every summer. I’d like Arsenal to start buying them.

That’s all for today, folks. I shall return tomorrow. Please leave a comment or two in the handy section below.

Category: News
  • Mark Sillery (@Mark_Inked) says:

    I totally agree. Wasn’t it last summer and the summer before when we were told that Arsene would have a £100 million “war chest” to buy new and experienced “stars”? It makes me, and I know I’m not alone, so angry that we have become a feeder club to MCFC. I know there is no confirmation as yet that RvP will go there but history seems to have a habit of repeating itself when they offer us a sum of money for a player. The exception was Cesc, everyone knew in their hearts he would return to Barca.

    It’s time the board released some funds to buy decent players. What entices a player these days of any calibre to come to Arsenal? The history? Arsene Wenger? The history for foreign players is that we haven’t won a trophy since most of them were playing football in the schoolyard. Arsene is a fantastic manager but has his hands tied when it comes to finances. It’s certainly not the wage structure. MUFC, CFC and MCFC have us beaten on that front.

    It’s time for change and somebody needs the balls to come out and say it at board level. Surely they can’t be happy with the unrest at the club and being known as under achievers and unable to compete at the highest level. Third place and CL qualification isn’t going to entice big names to The Emirates. Only change, ambition and being genuine contenders will do that.

    Time for change.

    July 15, 2012 at 11:00 pm
  • jon says:

    Stop thinking of us as a feeder club for City, think outside the box. They’ve paid for a fifth of our stadium rebuild. Not bad in three years

    July 15, 2012 at 11:24 pm
    • ivan f says:

      Are you for real

      July 16, 2012 at 12:28 am
    • AidanGooner says:

      Absurd thing to say, you sound like a board member not a fan. Anyhow, if things continue as they have been- we may as well have stayed at Highbury because we sure as hell won’t be able to fill the Emirates.

      July 16, 2012 at 7:21 am
  • DROPGO says:

    OX-15M, MIYACHI-3M, PARK-1M, ARTETA-10M, MERTESACKER-10M, PODOLSKI-11M, GIROUD-10M, SANTOS-3M, GERVINHO-10M, EISFELD AND CAMBELL-1M THATS 74M IN 2 SEASONS PROBLEM IS WENGER SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT 3 PLAYERS FOR 25M EACH INSTEAD OF 11 FOR 74M. QUALITY NOT QUANTITY.

    IMAGINE THE TEAM IF WE GOT THE PLAYERS WE ACTUALLY WANTED
    WITH HAZARD, GOETZE, VERTONGHEN, ETC BITE THE BULLET AND SPEND BIG WIN BIG. IF WE HAD KEPT HOLD OF OUR STARS AND ADDED 1 OR 2 THE TEAM COULD LOOK LIKE THIS

    SHCEZNY/LLORIS

    SAGNA, DEBUCHY, VERMAELEN, TOURE, KOSCIELNY, GIBBS, MERTESACKER, CLICHY.

    WILSHERE, SONG, ARTETA, M’VILLA, NASRI, FABREGAS, RAMSEY, DIABY, ROSICKY, GOTZE

    GERVINHO, HAZARD, RVP, WALCOTT, OX,

    INSTEAD OF PARK, BENDTNER, SANTOS, DJOUROU, ARSHAVIN, SQULLACHI, VELA AND A HOST OF LOAN OUTS.

    July 15, 2012 at 11:45 pm
    • cuchio says:

      do u really think harzard and gotze cost 25 each…

      July 16, 2012 at 1:45 pm
    • udehsam says:

      why adding Arteta, Gervinho and coy? they were supposedly not bought… wake up fella! that money wasn’t available in one season. even if it was, we would not spend it on three players.

      July 16, 2012 at 2:33 pm
  • davi says:

    Didn’t Wenger name Neymar as the player he’d spend big on if given the chance? Ganso would be a great signing, and the sort of player we will need next season, but Neymar could be up there with Messi and Ronaldo. Unfortunately I don’t think he’ll be leaving this season, and it’s even less likely he’d join us.

    July 16, 2012 at 12:09 am
  • nick says:

    I wish the shareholders could work together….usmanov is way richer than abromovich so why not let him invest?

    July 16, 2012 at 12:17 am
  • davi says:

    I’m not one for negativity, but I think that if you want to draw comparisons with the transfers made by other clubs, look at Newcastle. They haven’t paid huge sums, but they’ve bought players who would be comfortable at any PL side.
    Tiote – everyone should have taken notice of Twente winning the Dutch, league, and it appears Newcastle picked out the real gem of that side.
    Cabaye – likewise, everyone should have taken notice of Lille winning the French league, and Cabaye, being the captain, and a player of clear talent, should have been an obvious target, and Newcastle picked him up for practically nothing.
    Demba Ba – Newcastle took a chance on him because of his knee problem, but I could have told you he was a quality forward. He got 1 in 2 with a struggling West Ham, and his ability was clear whenever I saw him. Not signing him was a bit more understandable because of the injury worry, but he wasn’t an expensive risk.
    Demba Cisse – Again, everyone knew about him and Newcastle simply moved quickly to get him.
    Ben Arfa – One of the most talented young players in France. Known about by everyone and picked up by Newcastle for little. His attitude has long been questioned, but again, they took a chance on his talent after his injury and so far it appears to have paid off.
    Of these, Cabaye was the most obvious signing we could have made, especially since it was clear Fabregas was leaving at the time and we were in contact with Lille over the Gerv signing, but I can’t believe Tiote couldn’t have been scouted, and Demba Ba was clearly worth the risk considering he didn’t cost anything and did well for WHU.
    Anyway, the point is, we don’t have to spend big to make great transfers, and we’ve made some ourselves in recent years (Koscielny, Arteta, Sagna), but I’m stunned that Newcastle have continued to pull off these great, and rather obvious, signings while we have seemingly been less successful. I mean, just add Cabaye and one of the Dembas to what we had last season, and we’d have been laughing.

    July 16, 2012 at 12:32 am
    • 2gunnsUP says:

      Bravo…you took the words out of my mouth! Ive also noticed Newcastles signings these past few year and the same question popped into mind.

      July 16, 2012 at 1:09 am
  • ieuan says:

    i honestly think we have run out of money that is why we are delaying the signing of mvilla un till we get rid of dead wood or sell vanpersie, and why do we still have almunia and squillaci at the club

    July 16, 2012 at 1:09 am
    • AidanGooner says:

      How can we have run out of money when our net spend on transfers is the lowest in the league over the last few years and lower than several clubs who play in the Chamionship, this while we get our Champions League income every year.

      July 16, 2012 at 7:27 am
    • bc says:

      Almunia left when his contract expired in june. squillaci will leave when his expires next june. squillaci like almunia will be left out of the 25 man squad when it is named in august if he has not found a club by then. its his £45k a week salary that is the problem. do arsenal just pay it up and let him leave for no fee or just keep him at the club to play reserve and league cup?

      July 16, 2012 at 8:33 am
  • Charlie says:

    Probably, fat lot of good it’s doing having an owner with a $3 billion fortune if he won’t even fix the cashflow let alone pay off the stadium.

    July 16, 2012 at 1:36 am
  • Door Gunner says:

    Yep couldn’t agree more. You did however miss a very important point. Its not just this year that we are supposed to have money to spend its every year! So my question is why would it hurt the club to finally go out and pay big money to sign a plyer like Neyamr??? Let me answer my own question…because all that money that we have had to spend over these last 6 years and never have has gone into the ever fatter wallets of the Arsnenal Board!
    I have been saying for years that untill the board is either totally cleared we are bought by Usamov/Kroenke or another billionaire who is willing to put the club BEFORE dividends then as far as the businesmen are concerned, who actally run Arsenal, then everything is more than fine its fantastic!
    Laedy Nina was the last board memeber who cared for this club and when she left, saying that other members only cared about bussiness not the future and present of our club then this was road were always going to be stuck on..The point you didn’t mention was that every year we have this money plus every our top players are bought ( and not replaced) so we should have that money also…so where is it all???

    July 16, 2012 at 1:50 am
  • Subesh says:

    Unfortunately,Neymar will not come to Arsenal even if he is paid over the top.He already has a pre-contract agreement with Barcelona FC as revealed by Guillem Ballague last season.

    July 16, 2012 at 3:23 am
  • osssmanasdz says:

    The issue with signing a top quality talent such as neymar or ganso is their their wages. If you pay neymar 150k, then you’ll have to increase the wages of wilshere, Walcott, etc… This would create issues and cause our overall wages to balloon

    July 16, 2012 at 3:35 am
    • AidanGooner says:

      This may be true of Neymar, but the likes of Ganso, Lucas Moura or Oscar from Brazil should be realistically signable, add real quality, and excite the fans.

      July 16, 2012 at 7:33 am
  • bc says:

    Only neymar on that list would excite me. ganso moura and oscar like neymar are all unproven outside of brazil. we have all seen how difficult south americans find it adapting to the premier league. arsenal cant afford to wait for talent to settle in. we need players that will hit the ground running. players that have either already proved themselves in the premier league or who are at the top of their game in spain germany or italy. we dont need much 3 players if rvp and walcott stay or 5 if they dont. REMEMBER BIG FEES DO NOT GUARANTEE QUALITY – DOES IT ANDY CARROLL?

    July 16, 2012 at 8:46 am
  • Rinfela Chamakh Gunners says:

    Please wenger sign this two players and no else will be needed…

    July 16, 2012 at 9:17 am
  • fergus kelly says:

    Hplding on to poor quality players,ie, BENTDNER, DENILSON, VELA AND 6 MORE HAS BEEN A N ACT OF STUPIDITY, A LACK OF RUTHLESSNES. . SOME ENGLISH BACKBONE BADLY NEEDED . TOO MANY FRENCH SIGNINGS. ONE GREAT IS WORTH 3 BAD

    July 16, 2012 at 9:57 am
  • dom says:

    Ganso would be the realistic guy to sign for us, a couple of comments on here say that Ganso and Lucas Moura haven’t proved themselves outside of Brazil well i can tell you that they have proved themselves just as much as Neymar has. When Ganso and Moura play for Brazil they dont play like your odd Brazilian player who dont have what it takes to be a top player for example Hulk, Hernanes yeh they are good players but neither produce their ability consistently, when Porto played Man city in the europa league Hulk didn’t produce the skill that he normally produces every time he tried to get round a player he got tackled, its the same with Hernanes yes he is a good player but he doesn’t produce his talent enough. Ganso and Lucas do they are consistent they are key players in every game they play for both Brazil and their respected clubs.
    Ganso has had some injury problems in his short career but these injury problems are pretty much sorted now that they know they course, he simply grew to quickly and parts of his body couldn’t cope. I had the same problem, so i just worked on the muscles specifically around the joints and back and i could play again.
    Ganso would be the perfect player for Arsenal because of his game style, he is a playmaker for one, we dont have one and his game is very similar to two different players, Zidane and Fabregas two of the best midfielders ever to grace this beautiful game all mixed into one player. Ganso is the guy who can bring back the Arsenal game.
    When i say bring back the Arsenal game i mean our style of play which was lost along with Fabregas and Nasri and Wilshire, these players link up play between each other brought the footballing world in my opinion the best football at the time, Barca’s play was good but it was boring and still is, Arsenal played with up tempo smooth passing which was mesmerizing when at best.
    I also think that we should replace Walcott with Afellay, although Afellay didnt have a great euro’s he still has outstanding ability and would be a bargain at the reported £6million price tag, he is also good friends with RVP so he could be the pivotal figure that will keep Robin at the Emirates

    July 16, 2012 at 11:55 am
    • Ciaran says:

      how credible are these links with Ganso?

      July 16, 2012 at 2:01 pm

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